Briarcliff 'All Briar' Pipe

[runscott]

Title edited for caps. Please see Rule 9. -jpm

Here's an odd one I picked up in an antique store today - the stem is briar. I won't be home to clean it up for another week and a half, but looking forward to seeing the stem cleaned up.

 

[Ahi Ka]

That is really nice bro. I have one all briar pipe. It may actually be my favourite stem material. I wrap it with friction tape to avoid chatter

 

[runscott]

That is really nice bro. I have one all briar pipe. It may actually be my favourite stem material. I wrap it with friction tape to avoid chatter

The funny thing is that I only recently started looking for a Kaywoodie briar stem pipe on ebay, and this was the only decent pipe I saw today. Lots of pipes - but all crap.

So was 'Briarcliff' a pipe company? Couldn't find it in Pipedia, and only one example - sold by Smokingpipes - and it was a completely different shape 'Briarcliff' pipe.

This one appears to be high quality. A little stem chatter, but I bet a good scrubbing raises it right out. I think it's going to clean up nicely. And I can stab people with the built-in weapon.

 

[jpmcwjr]

Cool thing! I wonder if the stinger is meant to help create a Venturi effect!?

 

[Ahi Ka]

“Who made that pipe” says briarcliff was made by penn tobacco co 1935 (USA)

 

[Briar Lee]

Title edited for caps. Please see Rule 9. -jpm

Here's an odd one I picked up in an antique store today - the stem is briar. I won't be home to clean it up for another week and a half, but looking forward to seeing the stem cleaned up.

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That is a Kaywoodie style fitment between stummel and stem and it’s not intended to come apart that way.

The stem is supposed to unscrew and the stinger come out, with the stem.

That threaded metal part once upon a time was glued in the stummel.

This happens rather often to a Kaywoodie.

The trick is to get the stem to unscrew from the metal fitment.

Try soaking it in Everclear, and go careful and easy.

That’s a usable, neat old pipe the way it is right now.

 

[runscott]

That is a Kaywoodie style fitment between stummel and stem and it’s not intended to come apart that way.

The stem is supposed to unscrew and the stinger come out, with the stem.

That threaded metal part once upon a time was glued in the stummel.

This happens rather often to a Kaywoodie.

The trick is to get the stem to unscrew from the metal fitment.

Try soaking it in Everclear, and go careful and easy.

That’s a usable, neat old pipe the way it is right now.

Thanks - so you think Briarcliff is associated with Kaywoodie?

 

[Briar Lee]

Thanks - so you think Briarcliff is associated with Kaywoodie?

Who knows if Briarcliff was a sub brand or licensed the Syncho Stem from KB&B, the parent company of Kaywoodie?

But that pipe has, a synchro stem that’s come unglued at the front.

What makes it worse, is that it’s square shank bulldog that will show a fraction of an inch out of alignment.

Kaywoodie used three things to make the pipe a Kaywoodie.

First was the trade mark Kaywoodie shamrock, and trade name.

Second, a ball stinger with holes drilled in the ball.

Third, a screw in stem that featured that fitment you have on your Briarcliff.

If the Brairciff was made after the patent expired, there’s no legal problems for any company to make it.

 

[runscott]

Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I'm 1200 miles from home for another week, but can't wait to work on this one when I get back to my tools.

 

[jpberg]

That is a Kaywoodie style fitment between stummel and stem and it’s not intended to come apart that way.

The stem is supposed to unscrew and the stinger come out, with the stem.

That threaded metal part once upon a time was glued in the stummel.

This happens rather often to a Kaywoodie.

The trick is to get the stem to unscrew from the metal fitment.

Try soaking it in Everclear, and go careful and easy.

That’s a usable, neat old pipe the way it is right now.

You sure that’s a KW stinger?

 

[snagstangl]

I think it could have been made the LHS/Sterncrest. They had an Allbriar. The pipe phil article pics LHS -- Pipes : Logos & Markings - http://www.pipephil.eu/logos/en/logo-lhs.html looks like it could have been made similarly.

 

[Briar Lee]

You sure that’s a KW stinger?

I’m nearly certain Kaywoodie didn’t (and couldn’t) patent metal stingers. I’ve seen stingers in briar pipes in old Sears catalogs in the early 1900s.

What KB&B did patent and advertise from the rooftops was the round ball “Drinkless” stinger with holes drilled in it, in the twenties, before the famous Kaywoodie Syncho Stem screw in stem was added.

That Briarcliff has a Kaywoodie type screw in stem, that’s become stuck to the fitment and the fitment has unscrewed from the shank.

After the Synchro Stem patent expired then a bunch of other pipe makers used it.