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georged

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Yup.

AutoTune, compressors, massive "at will" low frequency capability, and synthesizers, all employed in the typically human "Anything you can do I can do more of!" mindset for a quarter century or so = music sounding not just the same, but truly bad.
 
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You can't honestly tell me we've gone downhill from ABBA with a straight face. That crap was terrible. Other styles, well there's some argument. As a man who makes his living in music, I'll say some has gone to crap but other, underground and out of the mold, artists have added to the current catalog.
 

vosBghos

Lifer
May 7, 2022
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Yup.

AutoTune, compressors, massive "at will" low frequency capability, and synthesizers, all employed in the typically human "Anything you can do I can do more of!" mindset for a quarter century or so = music sounding not just the same, but truly bad.
Plus the algorithm analyzed melodies and tempos killing off any human element bring on that uncanny valley effect which is actually repulsive to anyone with any artistic sense.
 
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I'm feeling you guys aren't part of the target audience of today's sound. rotf Ol' Chet and his sort took country music in a direction that left me way behind. Very little of the "Nashville Sound" appeals to me, very, very little. So I feel a bit of empathy for you three.
A middle aged male pipe smoker. Yep, that's the target audience for modern pop. nnnn rotf
 

georged

Lifer
Mar 7, 2013
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At the bottom of it all, of course, is The Computerization of Everything.

There is a parallel in the PipeWorld:

Today, someone can "make a pipe" by pushing the start button on a CNC machine.

Can he use hand tools? Does he have to know the first thing about them, in fact?

No.

Increasingly, everywhere and in every way, interacting with the world means knowing how to activate a computer program that was written by a specialist, which controls tools you don't even understand.

Hello "music" that's assembled puzzle-style. Sounds that were made by machines. Hell, all too soon AI will do even that.



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vosBghos

Lifer
May 7, 2022
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You can't honestly tell me we've gone downhill from ABBA with a straight face. That crap was terrible. Other styles, well there's some argument. As a man who makes his living in music, I'll say some has gone to crap but other, underground and out of the mold, artists have added to the current catalog.
Guess you didn't read the article? It's talking about pop. I've been in the industry for a few decades myself when you say underground I'm truly interested in what's going on in the underground currently that in more varied, innovative and groundbreaking than ABBA or any interesting 70's band. Been going to basement shows for years and everything has sounded pretty much the same since the early 2000s and if it doesn't it's a shout out of the past or a remix everything is about genre and sub genre The White Album could not be made today. But here and there again 20 years ago there was some really good stuff. I'm not arguing I am actually interested, point me to the In the Aeroplane Over The Sea of this or last year because that was one of the last truly breakthrough albums. I'm all ears.

Till then

 
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Kobold

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I'm not arguing I am actually interested, point me to the In the Aeroplane Over The Sea of this or last year because that was one of the last truly breakthrough albums. I'm all ears.
I have nothing to add because most of the new stuff I hear is just okay and nothing mind blowing. That said Aeroplane over the sea is an amazing album. My wife and I got to see him play at an old church in Baltimore years ago and it was such a great experience. Feels like not many albums like that come along anymore.
 
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Aug 1, 2012
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Guess you didn't read the article? It's talking about pop. I've been in the industry for a few decades myself when you say underground I'm truly interested in what's going on in the underground currently that in more varied, innovative and groundbreaking than ABBA or any interesting 70's band. Been going to basement shows for years and everything has sounded pretty much the same since the early 2000s and if it doesn't it's a shout out of the past or a remix everything is about genre and sub genre The White Album could not be made today. But here and there again 20 years ago there was some really good stuff. I'm not arguing I am actually interested, point me to the In the Aeroplane Over The Sea of this or last year because that was one of the last truly breakthrough albums. I'm all ears.

Till then

I did read the article and disagreed with it...shocking, I know. Keep going with your assumptions and ignore professionals in the industry since there is obviously no argument that can beat yours. Varied, groundbreaking? I'd argue hackneyed and derivative.
 

vosBghos

Lifer
May 7, 2022
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I have nothing to add because most of the new stuff I hear is just okay and nothing mind blowing. That said Aeroplane over the sea is an amazing album. My wife and I got to see him play at an old church in Baltimore years ago and it was such a great experience. Feels like not many albums like that come along anymore.
Thats all I'm getting at , breakthroughs are few and far between these days. As always if people cant tell that things have gotten worse there is plenty of more room in the pot for more frogs, incremental heat is a B@#ch.
 

vosBghos

Lifer
May 7, 2022
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I did read the article and disagreed with it...shocking, I know. Keep going with your assumptions and ignore professionals in the industry since there is obviously no argument that can beat yours. Varied, groundbreaking? I'd argue hackneyed and derivative.



Soooo you are not going to point us to these amazing underground bands?
You brought up the underground when the article brought up pop even in the title, strawman much?
Professionals what, Artist, Promoter, Record Producer?
I'm trying to have a conversation and jesting your replies stink of reddit.
 
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