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Lifer
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I've noticed the opposite. I drink a couple shots of tequila and nothing. Tobacco same. I think maybe I've just grown accustomed to these things coincidentally at the same time covid hit. But who knows. But I have noticed that now when I see a person wearing a mask around their chin I have an increased urge to rip it off their face. Anyway...
 

sablebrush52

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Covid affects different people in different ways.
BINGO!!! That's the simple reality of it. Some people are asymptomatic while others die of it within a few days of contacting it, some catch Covid over and over and others haven't caught it even once, and all points in between. Then there are the long haulers who just stay different levels of ill for months or years, and, unrelated to the severity of symptoms, there's the gradual internal organ damage over time, that's another lovely feature of this weird pathogen.
Herd immunity is a lovely fantasy that exists in the absence of the fundamental reality of genetic mutation. Sorry, but herd "immunity" belongs in the same category as the moon is made of cheese, or the stork delivered you after picking you up in a cabbage patch. Resistance is a different animal.
What I do around Covid is my choice. Others will make their choices. Hopefully, nothing as imbecilic as what currently poses as political beliefs will be part of the calculus. It isn't part of mine.
 

Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
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I have been fascinated with the 1918 flu all my life, because I suppose my great grandmother Paralee died of it, nursing the rest of my father’s family who all nearly died of it.

Except for no insulin or penicillin, basic medical science in 1918 was highly advanced. If you took insulin and modern antibiotics out of the bag of a modern doctor there would not be a huge difference.

Doctors in 1918 thought they had encountered a super bacteria.

They developed a vaccine, that seems to have helped with the secondary pneumonia that killed a lot of victims, but of course didn’t prevent the virus.

Like today, they had quacks and charlatans promoting worthless remedies. Since just like Covid, over 95% of those that caught the Spanish flu survived, the survivors swore their remedy worked.

Like today, they tried hand washing and cleanliness. Like today, people didn’t faithfully wash themselves, probably worse then than now.

They had mask mandates, with the same results as today, except then there was a war on so they weren’t as tolerant of resisters.

The only measure they took that definitely worked was isolation, what we called social distancing.

Over the fall of 1918, an old man named Alva Rains was 13 then and a live in hired hand told me my great grandmother Paralee arranged and enforced an effective quarantine on the household. While the flu raged around them their home was spared.

Then the war ended and the family wanted to go to Humansville, for Armistice Day bonfires.

She stayed at the residence of my Uncle Elmer who was in France and had a wife and little child at home. The spot was a half mile west. They hadn’t caught the flu yet either.


Guess what happened?

They all caught it.

They called a doctor but none would come.

Elmer’s wife Cora didn’t have a phone.


Finally my Aunt Eva sent Alva, who was the least sick, over to fetch her mother Paralee.

Alva would tell the story and say he’d never been as sick, but he was sure the others would all die, and he might live.:)

Paralee heard him coming and stood out in front of Elmer’s home with a shotgun, and said that will be close enough, Alva.

Alva told the story of deathly sickness and they weren’t able to cook, and she said hitch my horse on my buggy and I’ll be along shortly.

She alone, died of it, the others lived.

When Elmer returned from France he hated Eva for killing his mother the rest of his life.

Paralee’s husband, my great grandfather Alvin, was left an invalid for the two more years he lived.

And two years later, perhaps every soul on earth caught the virus and it utterly disappeared.

And every book I own about the 1918 flu remarks how ten years later hardly anyone remembered, there was no mention of it. The flus that still circulated mainly killed those about to die, anyway.

That looks like that will happen with Covid as well.

We will forget.

Xxxx

Globally, the number of new cases decreased by 44% during the past 28-day period of 5 February to 3 March 2024 compared to the previous 28-day period (8 January to 4 February 2024), with over two hundred and ninety-two thousand new cases reported. The number of new deaths decreased by 51% as compared to the previous 28-day period, with 6200 new fatalities reported. As of 3 March 2024, over 774 million confirmed cases and more than seven million deaths have been reported globally.

During the period from 5 February to 3 March 2024, COVID-19 new hospitalizations and admissions to an intensive care unit (ICU) both recorded an overall decrease of 35% and 64% with over 78 000 and 500 admissions, respectively.


Xxxx

But unlike a century ago, medical literature will tell doctors the best way to combat the next global pandemic. Todays epidemiologists will study this for another century until we all die, even the babies born today.

Minus the politics, it will fascinate people a century from now, that it ever was political.
 

Ahi Ka

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Thank you for reminding me that my health issues are my own fault. I’ll head down to the local Bunnings this weekend and grab a crate of those supplements, maybe i can find my balls while I’m at it.

Edit: just incase the my love for Aussie sarcasm was lost in the American forum filter settings, you’re all good you old bugger. The irony of talking about health on an open forum is not lost on me. I’ve been struggling with long covid for 2 years and this is the second thread I’ve talked about it in, and only to make Dan not feel like more of a weirdo than he normally is
 

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Sorry to hear this Dan, I enjoy a beer or two on occasion (rarely more) but I would be unhappy if that use created a problem(s).
It will be interesting 20 years from now to read studies about the long-term effects of Covid.
One of my managers got it early, was in the group hospitalized and on a ventilator. She recovered, but got it three more times. She's now developed heart issues, they suspect is related to her Covid battles.
 

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It sounds like you've experienced quite a shift in your tolerance levels post-COVID. It's not uncommon for the virus to affect various bodily adult night care near me Long Beach functions, including how we process substances like alcohol and nicotine. Many others may be facing similar changes. It's important to listen to your body and adjust accordingly.
 
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Not Covid related but I lost my tolerance for alcohol after an illness. About six years ago I was down hard with pneumonia and a plural effusion on my lung. I was out of work for several months. I didn't drink during that period. When I was back to normal, I tried returning to my routine of a Scotch or two after work. Halfway through the first drink I started having hangover symptoms, bad. I was sick through the next day as well. I waited a few weeks and tried it again. I started to have the same reaction but cut myself off sooner so that I didn't lose the next day to a hangover. I tried beer and wine also to the same effect.

My doctor ran blood tests and said everything looked good, including my liver enzymes. She had no explanation. Apparently, illness can change seemingly unrelated things in our bodies that the medical community cannot explain. I don't know about a change in nicotine tolerance as this started before I took up the pipe.

I feel for you. I miss that drink after work and on the weekends. I would love to have a Scotch or beer with my pipe. Someday I may try again. The reaction was so strong that as of now I don't dare.
 
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When I was in college, I got drunk, really drunk twice. neither time did I enjoy it at all. Five beers and I was gut wrenchingly heaving everything from my system. Then it took almost two days to get to feeling back to normal. I went about 30 years with no temptation at all to try a drink. The taste burned, and immediately I start getting flu symptoms, stomach cramps, temperature imbalances, hot cold, and spins. There just wasn't anything positive for me. So, it was easy to avoid it.

Then, my wife, happy that I didn't drink, urged me to go to wine tastings at vineyards. That was easy, because I could taste the wine without swallowing. But, then I started making wines. And, I can enjoy a couple of sips. A whole wine serving, and I am rather drunk.
Then, I went out to concur the bourbons, so I joined a bourbon tasting club. One sip swallowed, and I feel the same as when I drank a whole serving of wine. It hits fast. I still enjoy tasting both wines and bourbons, but I will leave the drunkenness to others.
My stepson actually leaves hi bourbons here at my house, because he knows it will be safe, ha ha.

As for nicotine, I can handle a lot of nic, and even when I overdo it, it's a pleasant experience for me. It really helps me get to sleep at night.
 

woodsroad

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When I was in college, I got drunk, really drunk twice. neither time did I enjoy it at all. Five beers and I was gut wrenchingly heaving everything from my system. Then it took almost two days to get to feeling back to normal. I went about 30 years with no temptation at all to try a drink. The taste burned, and immediately I start getting flu symptoms, stomach cramps, temperature imbalances, hot cold, and spins. There just wasn't anything positive for me. So, it was easy to avoid it.

Then, my wife, happy that I didn't drink, urged me to go to wine tastings at vineyards. That was easy, because I could taste the wine without swallowing. But, then I started making wines. And, I can enjoy a couple of sips. A whole wine serving, and I am rather drunk.
Then, I went out to concur the bourbons, so I joined a bourbon tasting club. One sip swallowed, and I feel the same as when I drank a whole serving of wine. It hits fast. I still enjoy tasting both wines and bourbons, but I will leave the drunkenness to others.
My stepson actually leaves hi bourbons here at my house, because he knows it will be safe, ha ha.

As for nicotine, I can handle a lot of nic, and even when I overdo it, it's a pleasant experience for me. It really helps me get to sleep at night.
It’s amazing, really, the different reactions that people have to nicotine and alcohol, and that science doesn’t have a clue as to why that happens. I used to enjoy drinking, and it took extreme effort to drink to excess. Nicotine treats me differently, and too much too fast has always made me uncomfortable and queasy. Now, moderation is the watchword. I’ve started blending low nic mixtures for myself, with good success, but I’m hoping to be able to get back to the dark and heavies some day soon. However, you may be seeing a Hi Nic Yard Sale here soon!
 
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Mar 24, 2024
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Not Covid related but I lost my tolerance for alcohol after an illness. About six years ago I was down hard with pneumonia and a plural effusion on my lung. I was out of work for several months. I didn't drink during that period. When I was back to normal, I tried returning to my routine of a Scotch or two after work. Halfway through the first drink I started having hangover symptoms, bad. I was sick through the next day as well. I waited a few weeks and tried it again. I started to have the same reaction but cut myself off sooner so that I didn't lose the next day to a hangover. I tried beer and wine also to the same effect.

My doctor ran blood tests and said everything looked good, including my liver enzymes. She had no explanation. Apparently, illness can change seemingly unrelated things in our bodies that the medical community cannot explain. I don't know about a change in nicotine tolerance as this started before I took up the pipe.

I feel for you. I miss that drink after work and on the weekends. I would love to have a Scotch or beer with my pipe. Someday I may try again. The reaction was so strong that as of now I don't dare.
Now that I think about it, there was no change in nicotine tolerance. The occasional cigar still hits me the same as in the past, based on strength and size.
 

Ahi Ka

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It’s amazing, really, the different reactions that people have to nicotine and alcohol, and that science doesn’t have a clue as to why that happens. I used to enjoy drinking, and it took extreme effort to drink to excess. Nicotine treats me differently, and too much too fast has always made me uncomfortable and queasy. Now, moderation is the watchword. I’ve started blending low nic mixtures for myself, with good success, but I’m hoping to be able to get back to the dark and heavies some day soon. However, you may be seeing a Hi Nic Yard Sale here soon!
If only Standard Tobacco was still making blends you could come out with a warhorse light covid long cut edition